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How Software Companies Die
Let me take a whack at the bee's nest: good software that can't be marketed,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], isn't.-----plinkplonk 1459 days ago | link
The central thesis of the article seems to be stated in the first sentence"The environment that nurtures creative programmers kills management and marketing types--and vice versa"Are you saying this is not true? I've been trying to think of a company that is an exception to this, but i can't. [EDIT maybe Apple?]I know that Google managers complain that engineers are taken more seriously in Google then themselves. Those who don't bang are not creative.-----jimbokun 1459 days ago | link
"[EDIT maybe Apple?]"The true genius of Jobs is his ability to understand,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], lead, motivate and inspire hacker-types (while not really being one himself). a stifling environment,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], which hackers cannot stand, and for good reason. Better people than I have written about this. But that disobedience is a byproduct of the qualities that make them good programmers. They may laugh at the CEO when he talks in generic corporate newspeech, but they also laugh at someone who tells them a certain problem can't be solved. True,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], it kills control freaks, but most management doesn't start out out like this. The problem is that when people who expect to be in charge see that they don't have even a minimal level of control,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], they start to crack down. Failing to communicate properly (and yes, the greater onus is on the highly specialized talent to make an effort to communicate with the unspecialized than vice versa!) means that the person attempting to manage you doesn't know what you're doing, when it will be done and what he can do to alleviate problems. Most halfway decent managers just need enough information to manage. Most programmers work on business applications, how "creative" do they need to be in their day to day work? It's plumbing, not much more. Yes, occasionally you do have serious problems that need out of box thinking, but in the normal day-to-day work of business programming if extended creativity is required, something else is wrong. Programming games or entertainment software or something where you have wide latitude to make changes, absolutely. Insurance and HR applications? not so much.-----j3h 1459 days ago | link
Yes, but the programmers working on business applications are already wearing suits or at least business casual. They don't care about the product. factories stop churning out people.-----ryanwaggoner 1459 days ago | link
This is probably due to a longer trend going on since the 70s, where the rise of the programmer, hacker and software enginner started. The idea of a "pure manager" MBA who hasn't ever actually done the "real work" his organization does to make money is a relatively recent one. And that is the problem with MBAs. Similarly, in many companies, it is possible to be a project manager having never done any of the projects you are managing. This usually ends in tears because practitioners never bother to mention "obvious" things so the PMs lose track of cross-functional dependencies.-----ams6110 1459 days ago | link
I think this is a view that some subset of developers has,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], but there's definitely another camp of developers who thrive in an entrepreneurial environment with a lot of focus on business success. I'm one. The company I work at was like that, and has now shifted more towards the "beehive" described here. I call it "developer day care" and it doesn't motivate me in the slightest.-----makaimc 1459 days ago | link
"Put them on a time clock,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], dress them in suits, and they become sullen and start sabotaging the product."So "real" programmers can't dress properly and reject any form of structure? Can we push these trivial stereotypes aside and instead realize that great programmers have a range of personalities? Smart people of all backgrounds,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], programmers included,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], rebel against rules that do not make sense. People who are good at anything reject arbitrary structure. If your power is your talent, an organization which assigns power based on anything else is an obstacle for you. One of the better programmers I've known wore only t-shirts and rarely even wore shoes in the office, and was considered half-impossible to deal with. But, he was actually more aware than the rest of us about how the whole organization ran,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], politically, and when he did make concessions, his managers felt like they had succeeded. Guess which professions each group tends to pursue.-----c00p3r 1459 days ago | link
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